Good Mic- so so pre amp or vice versa

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Good Pre-Amp or Good Mics

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Good Mic- so so pre amp or vice versa

Postby dotsandloops » August 15th, 2004, 1:21pm

You have a choice of spending 400-55 on a good pre-amp and have nothing left for anything but cheap mics or you can get an inexpensive pre- amp and buy a nice mic.

What do you do?
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Postby Paul23 » August 15th, 2004, 2:45pm

Avalon 737, about 2 grand and worth every penny.

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Just about every thing you plug into this sounds great!

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Postby dotsandloops » August 15th, 2004, 5:02pm

Thanks Paul! That is only 1500 outside the range listed. :)

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Postby Creamy Algorithms » August 15th, 2004, 5:22pm

500 hundred is really not going to get you a great mic or great preamp..you can get decent stuff in that range but really good Class A mic preamps cost dough. What pre's and mics do you have already?

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Postby dotsandloops » August 15th, 2004, 8:37pm

Yeah, after I posted this I realized saying great for either thing was ridiculous.

Right now I am toying with a Brick Tube Pre Amp and a condensor on loan from a friend.
The Brick is solely a pre ammp- no other bells or whistles. The sound is warm, I'll tell you that. The signal is boosted, yet is clear. I actually had a cheap Art Levellar Compressor that was worsening the sound. There is a nice signal going into the digital recorder which will be easy to mix afterwards.
Looks like I will go for a mid price mic in the near future. This of course could change. Let's see what you guys have to say . . .
What is the deal with pre amps? Why are they such a rip off?!?!

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Postby Creamy Algorithms » August 15th, 2004, 9:05pm

Good mic pres are not ripoffs they're expensive cause the components they use are more costly than the cheap crap that Presonus, Behringer and ART use. I've owned alot of that stuff and when I was starting out and it served me well but when I bought a UA2108 it really opened my eyes to how things can sound..

I guess my answer for your question is to get the best quality mic preamp you can afford, A good mic will probably not sound good if you are going to run it into a 99 art tube mp, where an sm57 can sound pretty sweet when you have a nice mic preamp with alot of headroom. For 5 bills I would look at an FMR preamp. Really well made and have gotten alot of favorable reviews from engineers who have access to very pricey toys.

http://www.mercenaryaudio.com/fmraudio.html

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Postby dotsandloops » August 15th, 2004, 9:57pm

I still think the stuff is overpriced as opposed to equlizers and compressors which are much cheaper relative to quality.

Now we are dropping the price down to four bills.
Sorry.

The Brick has a stupid name and is ugly, but I can hear the difference.

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Postby Creamy Algorithms » August 15th, 2004, 10:17pm

Why are you sorry? ultimately you get what you pay for..

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Postby Paul23 » August 15th, 2004, 10:42pm

Best mic for 500 bucks is the Shure KSM32.

Then save for the preamp.

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Postby dotsandloops » August 16th, 2004, 6:27am

I want to go for the pre amp first. I look forward your suggestions. Sorry about the four bills because I am changing the original post. Anyway . . .yes, you do get what you pay for, but as this is a hobbie, albeit a serious one . . . I am beginning to think four hundred dollars is a bit too much pre-amp.
Ok, it is Monday . . now that is everyone is at work surfing the net let's hear your suggestions. And is anyone gonna vote? :)

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Postby Paul23 » August 16th, 2004, 9:06am

DBX 576 on Ebay right now at $450 9:15am Monday 3 hrs left.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

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I've got 4 of these. Very nice unit.

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Postby Paul23 » August 16th, 2004, 9:18am

Or you could try the 376, the same unit with out the comp, (I think).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

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2 1/2 hour or so left on this one for $350

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Postby Creamy Algorithms » August 16th, 2004, 1:24pm

I thought you wanted a pre amp? you don't know what you want do you?

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Postby dotsandloops » August 16th, 2004, 1:46pm

MexicanGrady wrote:I thought you wanted a pre amp? you don't know what you want do you?


Tell you what I'll pass on the advice. After talking with two friends who have made fantastic recordings without blowing a load of cash. Believe it or not there are very creative ways of getting great recordings. Recordings that, hate to say, arethe same as what I have heard out of local studios.

I'd just rather spend 2k on a two month ecxursion through Europe than a pre amp. Take care all. 8)

Paul thanks for the rec.


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